The fact of this get-together is confirmed and undisputed. Thus, Ellis was "the man on a flaming pie. Now, John Lennon was well-known to put actual autobiographical occurrences into his songs and his writings throughout his career.
Could Royston Ellis actually be the guy who thought of the name the Beatles? The band went to Hamburg, Germany, to do several months of shows in August of It was there that they "officially and forever" changed their name to the Beatles.
Oh yes, I forgot to mention one final Beatles name-derivation theory. John's wife, Yoko Ono, claims that john actually thought of the name completely alone, without anyone else's help. According to Yoko, John literally "had a vision of the man on a flaming pie" and that he, alone, thought of the name from this alleged incident.
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Why Beatles? Ugh, Beatles, how did the name arrive? So we will tell you. It came in a vision--a man appeared in a flaming pie and said unto them "From this day on you are Beatles with an A. At least that was John Lennon's silly reply to the oft-asked question, as it appeared in Bill Harry's paper, "Mersey Beat," from July of But the whole story of the Beatles' name began in , when young Mr.
Lennon assembled his skiffle group, first calling it the Black Jacks, and then the Quarry Men. The group went through several name changes, surviving monikers like Johnny and the Moondogs, the Beatals, the Silver Beetles, the Silver Beats, and the Silver Beatles, before eventually settling on the Beatles. In March , after acquiring a guitar, John formed a skiffle group with Pete Shotton and for all of a week, they called themselves the Black Jacks. The name was quickly changed to the Quarry Men, after their Quarry Bank School, partly tongue in cheek, and partly to give the group credibility, according to "Lennon" author Ray Coleman.
Group members would come and go, but the Quarry Men tag lasted well into , even after the skiffle craze was over. This was in part due to the fact that drummer Colin Hanton's kit was lettered that way. In fact, Hanton remained a part of the group simply because he owned a set of drums! One can't help but wonder whether Johnny and the Moondogs would have become a household word if they had passed the audition!
The name didn't last long, though, as band members went in their own directions for a brief period. George played with another group, while John and Paul played two dates, April 23 and 24, as the Nerk Twins.
Around May 5, , the group was known as the Silver Beetles. Brian Cassar , the leader of another Liverpool group called Cass and the Cassanovas, suggested the name change in the first place. They were advertised to appear one week later under that name, too, but that date was canceled. In early July , they billed themselves as the Silver Beatles, before finally settling on simply the Beatles, around August 16, Credit for the name goes to both Sutcliffe and Lennon, though it is not certain just which one came up with the "ea" spelling.
In more recent years, another theory as to the origins of the Beatles' name has been suggested by George Harrison and Beatles' press man Derek Taylor. In his second revised edition biography of the Beatles , Hunter Davies intimated that Taylor told him the name was inspired by the film "The Wild One.
As Davies put it, "Stu Sutcliffe saw this film, heard the remark, and came back and suggested it to John as the new name for their group. John said yeah, but we'll spell it Beatles, as we're a beat group.
There has always been a big thing about who invented the name Beatles. John had said he invented it. But if you look at a movie called "The Wild One," you'll see a scene about bicycle gangs where Johnny's played by Brando gang is in a coffee bar and another gang led by Chino Lee Marvin pulls into town for a bit of aggro.
The film dialogue printed here shows how Stuart could have thought of the name Beatles. Indeed, the film does show the Chino character referring to his gang as the Beetles. George Harrison, in a radio interview, agrees with this version of the name origin, and more than likely, he was the source for Taylor's re-telling of it. The following is an excerpt of an interview with George from radio's "Earth News.
John used to say in his American accent "Where are we goin' fellas? Bill Harry disputes the "Wild One" story in his "Ultimate Encyclopedia," because, as he claims, the film was banned in England until the late 's and none of the Beatles could have seen it by the time they came up with the name. If that is true, surely the Beatles had at least heard about the movie after all, it was banned , and might have known the storyline, including the name of the motorcycle gang.
That possibility, added to the fact that George, who was there, first told the story, makes it plausible. They took the idea of naming themselves after an insect like the Crickets, but changed the spelling for a pun on musical beats.
It's a simple as that. There's no deep hidden meaning. There's no wisdom here. Just a pun that might have provoked a very mild chuckle back in We accept it because we've heard it 50, times and they're the best group in history, but that doesn't mean they don't have a stupid name. The article also took to task Hoobastank "vulgar and gross" , Toad the Wet Sprocket sounds "like the male sex organ" , and Cherry Poppin' Daddies "where to even begin?
It included even the straightforward Dave Matthews Band, noting, "There are probably people with less exciting names in the world than Dave Matthews, but we've yet to hear about them. Readers, of course, had their issues -- much as they did with the L. Weekly list of worst bands of all time we recently covered.
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